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policy between them but no coherent policy whatsoever about what to do about the war and didn't mention it. while we have 66,000 americans in that war right now. we have serious things to make serious decisions about as a country. how do we turn down the nonsense enough to hope that our political process can be the means by which we make these grave and serious decisions? joining now is senator jeff merkley of oregon, chief sponsor of the amendment that passed calling on an accelerated withdrawal of u.s. forces from afghanistan. senator merkley, congratulations on the success of that amendment today. >> thank you very much, rachel. it's an incredible amount of things happening around the world today. >> yeah. i feel like this is one of those moments when i have very high hopes and very high wishes for what our political process will be capable of doing, and i have to say, seeing your amendment passed today in such a bipartisan fashion with so much republican support made me have some hope that some of the biggest foreign policy challenges we've got might be tackled in a way that is at l
policy between them but no coherent policy whatsoever about what to do about the war and didn't mention it. while we have 66,000 americans in that war right now. we have serious things to make serious decisions about as a country. how do we turn down the nonsense enough to hope that our political process can be the means by which we make these grave and serious decisions? joining now is senator jeff merkley of oregon, chief sponsor of the amendment that passed calling on an accelerated...
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. >> it's actually an opportunity to get at what the nature of the obama administration foreign policy is, paul. and susan rice in some ways encapsulates a strain in democratic policy thinking that goes way back, a story that's actually told by samantha power, a close aide to president obama and wrote about genocide in with a randa. and susan rice is state department that makes a cameo appearance in the book, quoted asking, if we call what happened in rwanda genocide, how does it play for us in what were then the mid term elections of 1994. well, there's a pattern here as we see. one is a reluctance to have america be engaged in certain issues, and the second one is politicizing foreign policy issues because they might hurt the president's political stance. >> paul: and you want a secretary of state, if you're-- well, the american people want a secretary of state who is some more independent judgment and not thinking so much about the politics, is that the point? >> that would be one thing that you would look for in the secretary of state. >> paul: sorry for stating the obvious. >> the
. >> it's actually an opportunity to get at what the nature of the obama administration foreign policy is, paul. and susan rice in some ways encapsulates a strain in democratic policy thinking that goes way back, a story that's actually told by samantha power, a close aide to president obama and wrote about genocide in with a randa. and susan rice is state department that makes a cameo appearance in the book, quoted asking, if we call what happened in rwanda genocide, how does it play for...
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touren the pantheon of house republican foreign policy experts, representative louie gohmert is one of the most thoughtful and clear-eyed. ear is his explanation of why the president chose to intervene in libya. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >> just so i understand this, the president agrees and issues the directive to go after osama bin laden, the head of al qaeda, so that al qaeda can take control of libya. >> facts don't live inside the conservative bubble. >> i know it's friday but -- >> we keep coming back to the same thing. maybe we'll talk about they start with a thesis of they hate obama. he's a horrible person -- >> but this gentleman is not a member of fox news. he's an elected congressman of the united states. >> well, as you know, there's ultimately no difference, right? they're in the same thought ecosystem, right? which is directed by the fox news, the rush limbaugh, the ann coulter what they say filters do unto the rank and file and they vote for these people who
touren the pantheon of house republican foreign policy experts, representative louie gohmert is one of the most thoughtful and clear-eyed. ear is his explanation of why the president chose to intervene in libya. >> this administration sent planes and bombs and support to oust gadhafi so that al qaeda and the muslim brotherhood could take over libya. >> just so i understand this, the president agrees and issues the directive to go after osama bin laden, the head of al qaeda, so that...
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but as it relates to foreign policy, what would you say is our greatest challenge to move forward that no one is talking about? >> well, so what did the two most important people in this country sit down and talk about yesterday at lunch? when everything else is done and the election is wrapped up, it isn't about social issues. it isn't about the fringe issues. they sat down together and talked about america's leadership in the world. so at the end of the day, that's what matters most to republicans and to democrats. how do you get to where we need to be? it's going to be about economics. it's going to be about education. it's going to be about rounding out tax policies that serve our free market economy. and we're not there yet. but it was interesting when i read, you know, the news coming out of yesterday's lunch. at the end of the day, what is it we care most about? republicans, democrats, sit down and break bread. >> two things. first, ambassador, this idea that the corporations control our government destroys our democracy. and that's something i think republicans have to -- the p
but as it relates to foreign policy, what would you say is our greatest challenge to move forward that no one is talking about? >> well, so what did the two most important people in this country sit down and talk about yesterday at lunch? when everything else is done and the election is wrapped up, it isn't about social issues. it isn't about the fringe issues. they sat down together and talked about america's leadership in the world. so at the end of the day, that's what matters most to...
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policy guard, versus this new foreign policy guard and some led by jon kyl who is not an isolationist, if you will. there is some isolationist views there but it's an interesting divide sitting in the senate. >> it's not even a divide anymore. some aren't part of the caucus anymore. with this issue, part of it is to say that there's skepticism, overall skepticism of the u.n. among some of the republican party, which is probably an understatement. this digs deeper into that deep rooted skepticism of the body in general. >> all right. i want to move to fiscal cliff here. there's a mix of public opinion and public policy here. democrats feel as if they're winning the public opinion war but that isn't going to get them 218 votes. so at what point does winning the public opinion sort of become diminishing returns? >> well, i don't think it comes to diminishing returns. you see consistently that the exit polls show that people -- not just support president obama but support seeing the wealthy pay a little bit more on taxes, half of the electorate said that. everybody should pay a little bit
policy guard, versus this new foreign policy guard and some led by jon kyl who is not an isolationist, if you will. there is some isolationist views there but it's an interesting divide sitting in the senate. >> it's not even a divide anymore. some aren't part of the caucus anymore. with this issue, part of it is to say that there's skepticism, overall skepticism of the u.n. among some of the republican party, which is probably an understatement. this digs deeper into that deep rooted...
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they are the chief foreign policy spokesman for theed a handwriting. to suggest not to go on news shows because that's political is just not part of precedent and it's wrong. i think senator collins is -- i know her. i think she's trying to do the best job she can. but to say not to go on those news shows, that doesn't really jive. >> let me ask you one other thing, governor, about senator collins. she wants susan rice to explain her role in the bombings in africa, tanzania and kenya in 1998. you were the ambassador in 1998. did susan rice have any oversight or any authority at all that dealt with those embassies in kenya and tanzania that she would have to explain? >> no. she is not a homeland security officer. at the time, she was assistant secretary of africa on policy. she was making policy towards sudan, towards kenya, towards south africa. an excellent policymaker but she was not in charge of embassy security. that's diplomatic security and other entities that, unfortunately, we had that tragedy. she wasn't in charge of the buildings in our embas
they are the chief foreign policy spokesman for theed a handwriting. to suggest not to go on news shows because that's political is just not part of precedent and it's wrong. i think senator collins is -- i know her. i think she's trying to do the best job she can. but to say not to go on those news shows, that doesn't really jive. >> let me ask you one other thing, governor, about senator collins. she wants susan rice to explain her role in the bombings in africa, tanzania and kenya in...
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that's a whole foreign policy package, because you have to do the state department, cia, defense, national security, u.n. ambassador depending on what moves he makes. it's a whole puzzle he has to fill out all the pieces. the national security aadviser is the only one that does not require senate confirmation. >> it feels kind of like it, and yachlt when you look at it politically it feels like the yes susan rice and no susan rice for state is the first domino that if you go with her, then maybe john kerry for defense. there's a lot of moving parts, so he has to make the susan rice decision first. all the other decisions frankly will be easier after that one. >> is that decision is related to a lot of other things. it basically is how much of a fight do you want to have right now with senate republicans? >> to not go off the fiscal cliff. >> and whether you can back down after that you have been so aaggressive against you. stay tuned. that does it for this edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow the show online. tamron has as a look at what's next on "news nation." >> great to see you
that's a whole foreign policy package, because you have to do the state department, cia, defense, national security, u.n. ambassador depending on what moves he makes. it's a whole puzzle he has to fill out all the pieces. the national security aadviser is the only one that does not require senate confirmation. >> it feels kind of like it, and yachlt when you look at it politically it feels like the yes susan rice and no susan rice for state is the first domino that if you go with her,...
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studying the foreign policy making of the u.s. for the past 75 years particularly. i don't think it is an exaggeration to say, as we look back on this period, it will be viewed as extraordinary. i think it will stand out as one of the best years of leadership in the state department that we have had. and i would add that, for those of you who are waiting this in your mind, it represents a big step forward in that regard. because the state department can focus on enfranchising the disenfranchised and get as much credit for it that in the past it would have gone for invading another country. that is progress for us. [laughter] i think that is why we consider this an extraordinary achievement. the other thing that is done here that is not hyperbole although it is extraordinary, it says that you have been one of our leading global thinkers in 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. we do like the idea of your leaving office. but it would be nice to give somebody else a chance. [laughter] having said that, the other thing that makes this a were qu
studying the foreign policy making of the u.s. for the past 75 years particularly. i don't think it is an exaggeration to say, as we look back on this period, it will be viewed as extraordinary. i think it will stand out as one of the best years of leadership in the state department that we have had. and i would add that, for those of you who are waiting this in your mind, it represents a big step forward in that regard. because the state department can focus on enfranchising the...
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you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he still has three things, family, faith and financial security. yes, and remember, romney is a multimillionaire several times over. so it's not like he needed the job. right now romney is subletting a space his ton's investment firm in boston. he'll be in the same building, i think it's a safe bet, wolf, we will be hearing from him again in some capacity or another, wolf. >> i'm sure we will. he'll do just fine. >> right. >> thanks very much. >>> the accused mastermind behind 9/11 potentially closer to coming to this very country he allegedly conspired to attack. >>> m
you look at john kerry who's focused on foreign policy issues. if you pick some piece of your message that did resonate with the american people and after a pause come back and start emphasizing that in important ways, that i think is the path to really helping to make a difference after your run. >> reporter: another good step? mending fences with your opponent. romney seemed to do that with this white house lunch with president obama. don't cry too much for romney though because he...
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policy. take a listen. >> the only way you can explain the horrendous decisions that were so completely wrong-headed would be if this administration had a bunch of muslim brotherhood members giving them advice. >> so, bob, it's pretty clear the president has lots of people in the muslim brotherhood working for him like all thots those guys that killed osama bin laden and what about those who command the drone strikes? >> that whack job with texas is the person who went after the woman who works for hillary clinton. this is the kind of conspiracy mongering you would hope was over after this election. instead, it may get worse. and it may take two or three presidential thumpings for the republican party to come to terms with the fact that it can't be anti-immigrant, can't come across as anti-women, and it's never going to get the vote of young voters as long as it's anti-gay. these are hard questions. bill clinton, and matt is right about this, bill clinton brought the democratic party -- it wa
policy. take a listen. >> the only way you can explain the horrendous decisions that were so completely wrong-headed would be if this administration had a bunch of muslim brotherhood members giving them advice. >> so, bob, it's pretty clear the president has lots of people in the muslim brotherhood working for him like all thots those guys that killed osama bin laden and what about those who command the drone strikes? >> that whack job with texas is the person who went after...
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she bring as 21st century approach to foreign policy. one that is in step with president obama. she also has a great deal of passion for human rights and human dignity. what john kerry has passion for nobody is really sure. he is kind of a vanilla buy. she understands issues of poverty and pandemic and how though pray into national security and foreign policy. jon: on the other hand, senator mccain says, john kerry came within a whisker of being president of the united states, angela. senator mccain went on to say this, i would love to hear him make necessary case. i don't have anything in thinks background like the tragedy in gaziano that would make me carefully examine the situation. >> it is doing susan rice. if kerry is the nominee he would have smooth sailing through. in washington these are friends behind the scenes. if susan rice is nominee we'll have partisan politics. we have the liberal mainstream media already bashing republicans, some calling them racists and sexist in the fact they won't support susan rise because the fact she is a black woman. it is not about race.
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i mean, isn't it part rice's personality the editor at large of foreign policy magazine describes rice this way, quote, she's not easy. i'm not sure i'd want to take her on a picnic with my family, but if the president wants her to be secretary of state, she'll work hard. this is from a reuters article. so is it in part that senators aren't used to dealing with a person -- i mean, susan rice just comes out and kind of says things. she's blunt. she's not charming, warm, etcetera. >> or maybe some might say diplomatic which you need for the role of secretary of state. you know, that might be part of it because, look, this is a club up here, a member of the club is somebody who wants that job. we're talking about senator john kerry who is the senate foreign relations chairman that might be sort of an under current here. i think the big issue when it comes to susan rice isn't so much her personality. it's that republican senators think that she is just too political. bob corker, who is meeting with her later this morning as well, he is a republican from tennessee, he said that she would be
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policy. they want a permanent increase in the debt limit. they want a one-year extension of expanded jobless benefit plans and at least $50 billion in new spending to spur the economy. i talked to one house republican aide yesterday who said this represents a complete "break from reality" on the part of the white house. clearly a very tough opening offer particularly on the 50 billion there are in new spending and permanent extension of the debt limit. congress views that as its prerogative to review the purse strings. they won't like that on capitol hill. the president in pennsylvania is going to make the case here in a campaign style rally that in fact republicans are the ones who need to give in in this negotiation and he will say that he's not going to agree to any deal that does not increase tax rates for the richest in this country, guys. >> in the meantime, there was an audible gasp from mitch mcconnell when geithner laid it out. >> mcconnell called conservative writers in town that he
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historical hands off regulatory policy has allowed the internet to become the greatest vehicle for global, social, and economic liberty since the printing press. despite the current economic climate, it continues to grow at an astonishing pace. the f.c.c. commissioner and are in dubai this week as u.s. delegates, our committee has also sent representatives from both parties to keep an eye on the proceedings. they are the 193 member countries of the united nations are gathered to consider whether to apply to the internet a regulatory regime that the internet telecommunications union created in the 1980's for old-fashioned telephone service. as well as whether to swallow the internet's nongovernmental organizational structure whole and make it part of the united nations. neither of these are acceptable outcomes and must be strongly opposed by our delegation. among those supportive of such regulation is russian president putin who spoke positively about the idea of establishing international control over the internet, to use his own words. some countries have even proposed regulations that w
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policy team for his second term. savannah. >> andrea mitchell in washington, thank you. >>> let's turn to chris matthews, host of msnbc's "hardball," chris, good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah. >> as andrea pointed all indications are that susan rice will be the pick for secretary of state and all indications are that it would be a very ugly confirmation battle. is it worth it for the president to take on this fight, and at this point, does he have any choice given how vigorously he's defended her? >> officially the white house has not made a decision yet. i was told last night right at the top over there they haven't made a decision yet, but he clearly has to get some separation it seems from the fight over what happened in benghazi, the testimony she gave on "meet the press" in mid-september was and the issue of picking secretary of state. if he can separate the two issues by a couple of weeks. if he has to make the nomination right in the middle of this, we'll have an opening act to the second term whic
policy team for his second term. savannah. >> andrea mitchell in washington, thank you. >>> let's turn to chris matthews, host of msnbc's "hardball," chris, good morning to you. >> good morning, savannah. >> as andrea pointed all indications are that susan rice will be the pick for secretary of state and all indications are that it would be a very ugly confirmation battle. is it worth it for the president to take on this fight, and at this point, does he...